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Numerical solution of a highly nonlinear PDE and the absence of the soliton solution

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Hello. I try to solve the fourth order stationary PDE equation:

for right trangle geometry.

Following the procedure here and introducing and I rewrite the equation for the simulation

This equation can be represented as a General form PDE for the variables u, P, and Q: Gamma1=(ux+Px+Qx+1/3(ux)^3+ux(uy)^2), uy+Qy+1/3(uy)^3+uy(ux)^2) and F1=0;

Gamma2=(ux,0) and F2=P;

Gamma3=(0,uy) and F3=Q,

where all coefficients are equal to 1.

The equation is supplemented by Dirichlet conditions on the boundaries u=0 and the second derivatives uxx=0, uyy=0 also. Of course also I can introduce Neumann conditions.

It is well-known that for some approximations the equation gives rise soliton solution similar to a solution of the nonlinear Schrodinger equation. However and this is my problem after the Comsol simulation I obtain an obvious trivial solution with u=0. How to avoid this numerical solution? Is it possible? Thank you in advance.


3 Replies Last Post 2020年6月29日 GMT-4 13:11
Jeff Hiller COMSOL Employee

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Posted: 4 years ago 2020年6月29日 GMT-4 09:17

Hello Yuriy,

You can influence which solution the solver goes towards by providing a suitable initial guess using the Initial Values node. The default Initial Values is zero, so if zero is a trivial solution and you don't override the default Initial Values, that's what the solver will find.

Best regards,

Jeff

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Jeff Hiller
Hello Yuriy, You can influence which solution the solver goes towards by providing a suitable initial guess using the Initial Values node. The default Initial Values is zero, so if zero is a trivial solution and you don't override the default Initial Values, that's what the solver will find. Best regards, Jeff

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Posted: 4 years ago 2020年6月29日 GMT-4 11:06

Hello Yuriy,

You can influence which solution the solver goes towards by providing a suitable initial guess using the Initial Values node. The default Initial Values is zero, so if zero is a trivial solution and you don't override the default Initial Values, that's what the solver will find.

Best regards,

Jeff

Many thanks for the reply. Sure, I have played with initial guesses (values) that are different from zero. Nevertheless, I again obtain the zero solution eventually. If I'm not mistaken I can use also an initial function instead of a numerical value, am I correct?

>Hello Yuriy, > >You can influence which solution the solver goes towards by providing a suitable initial guess using the Initial Values node. The default Initial Values is zero, so if zero is a trivial solution and you don't override the default Initial Values, that's what the solver will find. > >Best regards, > >Jeff Many thanks for the reply. Sure, I have played with initial guesses (values) that are different from zero. Nevertheless, I again obtain the zero solution eventually. If I'm not mistaken I can use also an initial function instead of a numerical value, am I correct?

Jeff Hiller COMSOL Employee

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Posted: 4 years ago 2020年6月29日 GMT-4 13:11

Yes, you can provide a function for the initial guess.

Best,

Jeff.

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Jeff Hiller
Yes, you can provide a function for the initial guess. Best, Jeff.

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